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24 April 2007 @ 02:54 pm
VCJ: April 21st, 2007  

Post 'em if you got 'em/
Meitiny_vice on April 24th, 2007 11:20 pm (UTC)
haha, lil zoo.
weatherwiseweatherwise on April 24th, 2007 11:20 pm (UTC)
All I got.

shamurokku on April 25th, 2007 01:12 am (UTC)
Ha ha great start
Robin Bougiebougieman on April 25th, 2007 01:28 am (UTC)

I done scanned some. Rebecca and I had a nice filthy one going with this Ultimate Fornication championship comic and Bryce dropped the ball with retarded gobbledygook. I know jam comics are all about not taking it too seriously and just goofin' around, and that there is no "right" or "wrong" way to do them and blah blah blah -- but seriously, how many halfway decent group-comics has the guy blown into shitball chickenscratch crazy-person nonsense? At least 50 or 60 by now, I'd estimate. I'm getting to the point where I don't sometimes don't even try anymore because I know the dude is probably gonna get ahold of it and derail the narrative instantly.

mothosmothos on April 25th, 2007 01:59 am (UTC)
Turn it into the Comic Jam Invitational and host auditions?

"Sorry Bryce, you didn't make the cut."

As you said, there is no right or wrong, but there is a spirit to the jam. You're continuing and building on what came before. Bryce seems to be going out of his way to make the most offensive, mismatched and often non sequitor panel possible. He's not influenced by the previous panels, I'd even be all right with it if he at least borrowed some style elements! But he doesn't! He makes crude little drawings with shock value, and not much else.

sean estymr_esty on April 25th, 2007 02:21 am (UTC)
He was being loud & intentionaly going out of his way to de-rail the jam. Bryce is a dick.

Also, he smells.
inkstudsinkstuds on April 25th, 2007 03:00 am (UTC)
Can I pretend to be a celeb judge,

"Sorry Bryce, you have had a weak history in the competition. At this point your good looks won't keep you in any longer."
Robin Bougiebougieman on April 25th, 2007 01:35 am (UTC)
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Kim Hoangloverspit on April 25th, 2007 01:39 am (UTC)
Man, that monster one turned out really awesome.
Kim Hoangloverspit on April 25th, 2007 01:36 am (UTC)

mothosmothos on April 25th, 2007 01:46 am (UTC)
The 'hug time' comic is probably my favorite from the Jam.
Robin Bougiebougieman on April 25th, 2007 01:37 am (UTC)
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mothosmothos on April 25th, 2007 01:41 am (UTC)
Bring on the comic train.

The first one's for Bougie:

weatherwiseweatherwise on April 25th, 2007 02:51 pm (UTC)
Oh, Colin Upton ... Paul Anka sang "Diana," not Neil Sedaka.
sean estymr_esty on April 25th, 2007 02:24 am (UTC)
I'm a little surprized that these comics are actualy getting kinda good. I guess usualy we're too drunk or somethin' but... way to bring the quality up a notch guys!
shamurokku on April 25th, 2007 04:00 am (UTC)
Last week & drunkenness
shamurokku on April 25th, 2007 04:16 am (UTC)
Re: Last week & drunkenness
I mean, last month...
Meitiny_vice on April 25th, 2007 07:15 am (UTC)
kinda good!
man, i've lol'd at a few of these now. the fluffy wrath one is my fave.
ex_jaleengr on April 27th, 2007 01:33 am (UTC)
where's the monster under the stairs?
Can the person with the one of the guy bringing flowers who meets a monster instead please post it? I know it got Bryce'd but I'd like a copy of it, as I put a lot of time into it and so did some other folks....

Speaking of the Bryce thing, I have to say I find it unacceptably rude to call someone down on a public forum. Has anyone tried talking directly to him with their concerns? I've known Bryce for 21 years and yes, he can be annoying, but believe me it's not because he means offense. I think he just has a hard time distinguishing between being funny and being obnoxious. Telling him kindly and honestly when he's crossing the line would be a more helpful approach than creating bad vibes in the community.
edbrissonedbrisson on April 27th, 2007 04:51 am (UTC)

Scanned by Phil Barrett.
1is_many1is_many on April 29th, 2007 12:23 am (UTC)
hmn...so Bougie can draw dismembered women, but that's all right...okay pepes-a couple things to get off my chest-not one of you have had the balls to do one of either two things-call me a shit to my face-possibly because I'd laugh at you. Possibly because I might listen, and be a decent human being. Possibly because I may point out the obvious-that there other people who draw total shit, who can't draw, etc., but i don't see them censored. Bougie, I am ashamed of you. I didn't know that people felt this way, and you continued to smile and chat with me. I find that deeply offensive, unbelievably so. So there I am, going to these increasingly boring little jams, because hey, i thought, here's some like minded people, who draw silly stuff, cool. And all along they are resenting not only my presence, but any contibrutions I make. Hey, maybe they do suck-it's a jam, people-how do people learn? by doing-and by maybe getting pointers-hey, did anyone of you sit down and maybe say "Hey, dude, there's a kind of, y'know, way of doing things."

Not a one. You all sat there, drawing you're silly shit, and deciding that my silly shit didn't make it. You sat there being pretentious. Snide. I was getting loud, because I saw the same cliquey crap happening that I've seen, and hated, everywhere else. Because I felt something, but since no one said anything, except here. So, don't expect to see me at one of your jams. However, do expect me to deal with you, one on one, if I see you. No, I will not yell and scream, but I will ask questions, I will talk to you, and obviously, now I know.

And yeah, guys, I'm hurt. The only one who defended me, while gently pointing out my failings, in a constructive manner, is Jaleen.

To tell you the truth, I'm really shocked, and really hurt. Because you all hid.
1is_many1is_many on April 29th, 2007 12:44 am (UTC)
Before I forget-who decides if something gets 'Bryce'd'? And why me? I'll point it out one more time-my shit is just as shitty as you're shit-why is one person's bit considered 'retarded gobbledygook' and another's isn't? Why the distinction at all? I look at this and all I see are predictable one liners, and fairly boring ideas-who decided that I dropped the ball? Who gets to 'curate' a freakin' jam? And why are you all feeling so bloody protective of some scribblings? I'm not angry at your criticisms of my efforts-fuck that, I could care less-I'm pissed at your cliquey bullshit, at the way you've treated me. Why do you think I was being obnoxious? Yeah, I know this long winded, but if you are going to say it, say it my face, and hopefully, in an adult manner, instead of acting like a bunch of schoolkids who secretly laugh at the chosen victim behind his or her back.

so what if I got no talent? who the hell died and made you god of the jam? Who gave you the right to decide what sucks and what doesn"t?

Feel free to use that lovely derogatory 'Bryce'd' anytime you feel. Cause obviously you are going to. Oh, and yeah, I know what's funny and what's not. I very much know where the line is. And I'm being long winded, instead of writing a quick fuck you all, cause you know I'll see you somewhere in space time, and now you'll just have to deal with it.
ex_jaleengr on April 29th, 2007 07:56 am (UTC)
I used "Bryce'd" as a segueway to say what I had to, and I meant it sarcastically. It was my subtle expression of a suspicion that perhaps someone was holding that sheet back because they were censoring you. I was not meaning that I disapproved of the quality, approach or subject matter or in any way agreed with Bougie's point of view. But re-reading it I can see that it could be miscontrued that way.

Really, looking back, I don't see that you contribute differently in general at all. Your style is expressionistic where others are more fineline perhaps, but I see that as a strength. A boring world if we all draw the same. Sometimes your contributions break standard comic format and make it challenging to think of What Next. But I see this as a boon too - I go to the jam to exercise my brain. In fact, I usually make a point of doing something like that myself at least once a jam (I did the valentine, for instance). And you certainly do not do it all the time - I particularly like the Barf strip, where your multi-panel S U P E R B A R F set it up for even sillier ideas, that Andy and others provided. Great stuff. As for talent - jeez, you know you've got great stuff hiding in your sketchbooks. As I saw the other night.

cuptoncupton on April 29th, 2007 02:20 am (UTC)
Elitiest adolescent high school bullshit. If this is the way the jam is going I don't think I want to be there either. It's an wierd world when Bryce is the one talking the most sense and comes across as more mature then the rest of you. Classy...
Robin Bougiebougieman on April 29th, 2007 04:49 am (UTC)
I'm not a big fan of confrontation. I don't like telling people I think they suck to their face. Like most human beings, I tend to not shove my negative thoughts about other people in their face for obvious reasons... you know: otherwise they get hurt and get mad and/or want to beat you up. Natural reactions, all. I wasn't enjoying keeping any "little game" going, and I can't speak for what other people have said about you. I did certainly make the mistake of spouting off and revealing my true feelings about doing jam comics with you on a message board while I was a tad drunkies.

So everything is out in the open. You now know I think you're somewhat obnoxious and don't do very good jam comics. It's not the end of the world, really, because now you think I'm an elitist, two-faced asshole. It's not the best situation, but we're both allowed to think that.
mothos: Gloommothos on April 30th, 2007 04:41 am (UTC)
I was sober when I wrote what I wrote. And I can't apologize for that because it is what I believe. But I can apologize for where and how I wrote what I did. It was cowardice to hide behind the anonymity of the internet (even though we have and may well meet in the future) to speak those thoughts. This public forum was not the best place to voice my opinion. So I'm sorry Bryce. I should have been a better person.

But I do stand behind what I said. The jam (for me) is for being influenced and influencing how others create comics. There are some very green artists there and I have seen new advances in their styles, as well as in my own and the 'pros' who attend. I've tried out new tools and lent some out. I talk about random shit, but I also talk shop. But your art never seems to advance, I don't see pushing yourself to become better. Perhaps you are, and I'm not recognizing it. I'm just voicing my opinion.

So by all means, come to the jam again. You may be annoying at times(especially after a few beer, but don't we all become annoying after a few?), but I've also seen you be a pretty entertaining, witty, and dare I say, a nice guy. While I've been all of the above and a judgemental asshole to boot. All I can request is that you bring your A game, (let's see what's in that sketchbook!) leave the stickers and foreign profanity at home please, I can and have seen better panels than that from you. And drink your own beer.

Not sure if I've coughed out my foot or crammed it further into my mouth, but I've said my piece. Hopefully the hatchet is buried like water under a bridge and we can get back to happy jamming.
tmc27 on May 16th, 2007 03:28 am (UTC)
Comic Jam Location
Hey there,

I really enjoy going to the Jolly Alderman, but it would be much better if a couple of things were different:

1) Better lighting. I already suck at drawing, and this only makes mine worse when I see them scanned.
2) Bigger tables. Colin and I kept fighting for space to draw last time... I think he won, but not before I got a beer glass ring on his page. ;)
3) (better) food served later.

Um, that's about it. DO you think we could procure these items at the Jolly Olly, or does anyone have suggestions for a different location in the future? (Obviously not this upcoming one, but maybe next month)

edbrissonedbrisson on May 16th, 2007 03:56 am (UTC)
Re: Comic Jam Location
Honestly, it's not likely to move.

1) I've talked to them about the lighting. There are tables with better lighting than others. Try to take one of the tables along the wall - they're better lit. I will try to keep on top of them about it, when/if they turn the lights down.
2) There is always plenty of space. Spread out.
3) They serve food until 11pm. That's plenty late.

I'm not interested in moving the location for several reasons. It's been at the Alderman for a couple years now. If we move it and then people find problems with the new venue and want to move again, we're going to start losing people. There is a lot to be said about keeping the location consistant.